{"id":2087,"date":"2016-10-16T18:25:23","date_gmt":"2016-10-16T17:25:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/?p=2087"},"modified":"2025-07-02T12:42:08","modified_gmt":"2025-07-02T11:42:08","slug":"testing-dads-y-dna-in-search-of-my-hibbitt-roots","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/testing-dads-y-dna-in-search-of-my-hibbitt-roots","title":{"rendered":"Testing Dad&#8217;s Y-DNA In Search Of My Hibbitt Roots"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-2089 size-full\" title=\"DNA Helix\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/dna-helix.jpg\" alt=\"DNA Helix\" width=\"450\" height=\"422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/dna-helix.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/dna-helix-150x141.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In search of Hibbitt DNA, a Y37 Y-DNA kit for my dad is on order from <strong><a title=\"FamilyTreeDNA\" href=\"https:\/\/www.familytreedna.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">FamilyTreeDNA<\/a><\/strong> in the hope we may be able to learn a little more about our direct paternal ancestry. This would be our Hibbitt line where our earliest known ancestor is <strong><a title=\"John Hybit\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hibbitt.org.uk\/familytree\/fam115617.html\">John Hybit<\/a><\/strong> who married three times in Exton, Rutland, between 1712 and 1732.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Only men can take the Y-DNA test as women don&#8217;t possess a Y chromosome. The aim is to see whether my dad&#8217;s DNA matches anyone else with a similar surname, or if not, then perhaps find a pointer to see where to look if a different surname pops up frequently with any other men who have tested.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Y37 test looks for STR markers which change slowly from one generation to the next. This means if dad has a match, they could end up being related within or outside the genealogical time frame where records can assist in the research. Let&#8217;s hope he gets a close match!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">If you are male and have, or you know any men with, the following surnames it would be great if you\/they could also take the Y-DNA test at FamilyTreeDNA and then join the <strong><a title=\"Hibbert DNA Project\" href=\"https:\/\/www.familytreedna.com\/groups\/hibbert\/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hibbert DNA Project<\/a><\/strong> <em>[the project currently needs an administrator as at June 2025]<\/em> to find out whether we have a common ancestor:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hibbert<br \/>\nHibbart<br \/>\nHebert<br \/>\nHibberd<br \/>\nIbbert<br \/>\nHibbit<br \/>\nHibbitt<br \/>\nHibbet<br \/>\nHibbett<br \/>\nHybit<br \/>\nHybut<br \/>\nIbbot<br \/>\nIbbott<br \/>\nAbbot<br \/>\nAbbott<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>[<a href=\"#update\">For more on this, please see the updated information below.<\/a>]<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Y37 test also provides an estimated Y-DNA haplogroup which indicates where a person&#8217;s deep paternal ancestry may have originated. I have already calculated dad&#8217;s Y-DNA haplogroup using his autosomal DNA test from AncestryDNA (this offers a basic haplogroup as the AncestryDNA kit is an autosomal test rather than a dedicated Y-DNA test) so it will be interesting to note whether the FamilyTreeDNA Y37 test confirms this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dad&#8217;s calculated haplogroup is S190 which points to an ancestor who probably lived in Scotland somewhere near Stirling about 1800 years ago. In order to fine-tune dad&#8217;s membership of the <strong><a title=\"Little Scottish Cluster\" href=\"http:\/\/www.littlescottishcluster.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Little Scottish Cluster<\/a><\/strong>, as it is known, we have ordered a specific Y-SNP test which other men in this group have tested positive for. We now wait with bated breath.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Thanks dad, for being a great sport.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2013<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">[<strong>Update June 2017<\/strong>: Since my original blog post, Dad&#8217;s SNP test confirmed his subclade as CTS2187\/S190. He then undertook the Big Y test and his terminal SNP has now been refined to R-Z36747.]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">[<strong>Update June 2025<\/strong>: After ascertaining DNA results from other men with similar surnames, it turns out that we are not Hibbitts further back than a few generations &#8211; <strong><a title=\"you can read about my discovery here\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/who-am-i-whats-my-name\">you can read about my discovery here<\/a><\/strong>. Dad&#8217;s haplogroup has been further refined and is now R-Y85420. He still does not have any close Y-DNA matches to help us solve the mystery of what our surname might be.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a name=\"update\"><\/a>As for men who truly are descendants of the <strong>Hibbitt\/Hibbit\/Hibbet\/Hibbett<\/strong> etc. clan, it seems there may well be a connection to those called <strong>Hibbert<\/strong> after all. <strong><a title=\"See more at my blog post here\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/update-on-the-hibbitt-hibbett-hibbit-y-dna-haplogroup\">See more at my blog post here<\/a><\/strong>.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In search of Hibbitt DNA, a Y37 Y-DNA kit for my dad is on order from FamilyTreeDNA in the hope we may be able to learn a little more about our direct paternal ancestry. This would be our Hibbitt line &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/testing-dads-y-dna-in-search-of-my-hibbitt-roots\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2089,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[58,51,50,23],"class_list":["post-2087","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-dna","tag-hibbet","tag-hibbett","tag-hibbit","tag-hibbitt"],"aioseo_notices":[],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2087","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2087"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2087\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2727,"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2087\/revisions\/2727"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2089"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2087"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2087"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hibbittbarnes.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2087"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}